tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post3441064870910593422..comments2023-07-01T00:33:55.165-07:00Comments on Ben Efsaneyim: The Unified Voice.Ben Efsaneyimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16001682865274251483noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-16891706552054410482013-12-17T08:23:14.256-08:002013-12-17T08:23:14.256-08:00The only way pan-Asian ( in east and west) is some...The only way pan-Asian ( in east and west) is something that will happen between Asians is any of the following ( because Asians only do something when there is of a self interested benefit involved)<br /><br />- business transactions<br />- dating<br />- social events based on 'race'<br /><br />the last one wont happen because its not enough to break Asians out of our nuclear family shell. So that leaves the first two. We all know the issues of Asian dating, which thanks to white hegemony, means Asian guys can only date in the west if they are on 6 figure salaries. So that leaves the first, business. What kind of business can Asians in the east do with each other that hasnt already been done. And what kind of business in the west involves Asians interacting with each other when most of the Chinatowns ( as an example of an Asian business) have to be legislated by white local authority.<br /><br />So those two are out. We are back to the last one - social events based on race. If Asians cared about their skin color, then things like language wouldnt matter. Again its ironic the biggest popular language in China ( and Asia) is English, yet Asians will not unite over this.<br /><br />So i repeat, for FOBS to create racial solidarity in the west, it needs to be done over the acknowledgement of speaking English, yes the language of the colonialists. But from the perspective of a way to communicate and let ideas be heard, that is until an East Asian language ever gets developed. Once that is established around social events that celebrate race ( with cultural events of authentic FOB music or even some decent Asian bands that have some edge, rather than white-wannabe guitar players , in any genre. Then Asians can have something to celebrate. I think if music and glitz is good enough, any culture can be appreciated. But Asians really just dont care enough to celebrate, and make an effort to celebrate our yellow skin because race doesnt exist, even though racism against Asians has been going on since 1900s and we are now in 2014 hahaindiekingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-38193347455130580292013-12-17T08:10:39.112-08:002013-12-17T08:10:39.112-08:00The thing with an inter-asian community from a his...The thing with an inter-asian community from a historical POV is that English is the language that unites us. Its also the language of racists or specifically Anglo-imperialism. Given that we still dont see English-speaking Asian rolemodels to this very day in 2014 celebrated in mainstream media, nevermind rolemodels that preach inter-Asian community means that something else in Asian community needs to happen. Like a threat that affects the whole Asian community for us to stick together. Something that can tribally unite the different Asian ethnicities. What would that be. Mein Kampf 2? Rich Asians have it too good, and as long as they do there will never be a common understanding because when you are rich, you have less inclination to care about your skin color because money can buy your way out of it , help you climb the white career ladder, and keep you hidden in FOB circles. There is absolutely no monetary use for an Asian community, and until there is, there will never exist one.indiekingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-61481039989463201062013-12-15T05:45:42.992-08:002013-12-15T05:45:42.992-08:00I agree with your perspective that the future lies...I agree with your perspective that the future lies in creating a Pan-Asian identity. I despise the regionalism and even nationalism at times that I find ensuing in the Asia-Pacific region. Another reason why we should connect ourselves with ethnic homelands, and then become brokers for pan-unity, dialogue, and peace, using our American identities to foster communication between separate Asian "tribes".Awake and Alivehttp://www.bigwowo.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-68142587111494463242013-12-08T23:14:32.299-08:002013-12-08T23:14:32.299-08:00I won't say that Asians in Asia cannot underst...I won't say that Asians in Asia cannot understand the Asian-American experience, but I will say that because they may not be inundated with negative racial images and ideas about them, that they may not necessarily have the same emotional response to prejudice, even though they abhor it on an intellectual level. Unless you live in a society in which the culture itself engages in racial harassment of Asians then it is difficult to connect with the kind of emotional and psychılogical distress that such things elicit in those that do.<br /><br />But as I said in my comment above, Pan-Asianism or a pan-Asian identity should be viewed as a natural process interrupted by European imperialism, and something that we should expect to occur for various reasons.Ben Efsaneyimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16001682865274251483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-455292481761535492013-12-08T22:55:27.032-08:002013-12-08T22:55:27.032-08:00I agree that some Asians internalize the idea of A...I agree that some Asians internalize the idea of Asian inferiority - I think that it is a way of deflecting negative attitudes away from oneself, which is human nature but sad nevertheless.<br /><br /><i>"I used to dislike the concept of "Asian Americans." I was proud of my ethnicity, but I didn't like the idea that I should feel some kind of kinship with, say, a Taiwanese and a Filipino just because we were "Asian," an identity that's been dictated to us by White Americans."</i><br /><br />This is an interesting point. You have not said this but there is an implied notion that Asia and Asians only started to interact with each other only after white people showed up. But, as you probably know, the Chinese, Japanese, Indians, and others have had communities all over Asia for hundreds of years, and trade between the various Asian kingdoms has been going on for centuries. With this trade came migration. So, in some ways, there is a historical reason, independent of white people, to assume commonality - even without the obvious connection of culture.<br /><br />So I view an inter-Asian identity as merely the reawakening of a process that would most likely have taken place naturally if European colonialism had not occurred. "Asia" is a Euro-term, but it can be appropriated by us to describe this process trade, migration, and communication between the region's tribes, kingdoms, and city empires, that existed prior to European interference.Ben Efsaneyimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16001682865274251483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-44060395009427116122013-12-05T03:18:37.539-08:002013-12-05T03:18:37.539-08:00Didn't know you were Filipino, that's cool...Didn't know you were Filipino, that's cool man.<br /><br />Pan-Asianism in the early 1900's was about Asian countries uniting against a Western Imperialism. Essentially, a bunch of people gave us each the same kind of shit and saw us as the same, just a bunch of countries to be colonized. It's the same with modern Asian Americans and other non-Asia Asians being cool with one another. We all look alike to them and they give us the same kind of shit. SEA do terribly in class, yet will get that Asian defferimative action on college applications.<br /><br />I'd like Asia Asians to have the same kind of love, but on the other hand I respect that they know they are not the same, that "all Asians are alike" that white people spew is weird as hell to them. They are unique, different and individualistic, but also need some level of racial awareness despite not really having to put up with the crap we do everyday. A lot of them have a negative view of Western foreigners that treat them like they do us, but it doesn't seem like they know why to a deeper level. <br /><br />Asian male celebrities seem to be great beacons for us because they're usually the ones that have to fight through all the stereotypes the most, especially in sports. I'm sure every Asian athlete has had his manhood dissed in the locker room.<br /><br />Asian female athletes I think are more common percentage wise, but unfortunately female athletes aren't that respected, at least athletes in contact sports, which would break the stereotype of Asian women being dainty and super feminine. <br /><br />I don't really trust Asian artists too, but to be fair, I don't think they make enough money to do anything. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com