tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post4887540213472940348..comments2023-07-01T00:33:55.165-07:00Comments on Ben Efsaneyim: Don't Mention The War!Ben Efsaneyimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16001682865274251483noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-54670517715627655932014-03-28T18:57:07.638-07:002014-03-28T18:57:07.638-07:00Good article.Good article.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-50518407153363196252014-02-14T23:33:06.811-08:002014-02-14T23:33:06.811-08:00Yes, there can be negativity coming from both side...Yes, there can be negativity coming from both sides without white encouragement, but that kind of negativity is more manageable and easier to remedy than the kind that comes from the reaction from being subjugated and indoctrinated by white supremacy.<br /><br />I contend that white people are the root cause of the problem. Before an Asian knows what a Black person is, before a Black person knows what an Asian is, before they have an encounter to assess each other for themselves, white people have already taken action to influence the interaction between the two groups, making sure conflict is maximized. Everything is already set up that way before anybody forms there own opinion or "racism". There are hardly any intergroup prejudices that were not learned from something caused by white people.<br />I agree. A one-sided contrition approach is not constructive. Both sides have things they can correct in themselves before even thinking about blaming the other side.Rashaannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-11825158897310609802014-02-14T01:18:18.857-08:002014-02-14T01:18:18.857-08:00Rashnu
Welcome!
There is no doubt that white rac...Rashnu<br /><br />Welcome!<br /><br />There is no doubt that white racism exacerbates inter-minority prejudices, but I think that we have to be honest and accept that there is also racism on both sides that does not need white encouragement.<br /><br />My issue is that some Asian advocates insist on a one-sided approach to resolving this problem - implying that Asians are the root cause of the problem.<br /><br />But as you say there is a history of cooperation and interaction that we can call upon to serve as the basis for future cooperation and unity. So yes, I agree that there has always been a divide and conquer aspect -and it may well be the most significant aspect of our mutual issues, but I think you would agree that a one-sided contrition approach is not constructive.Ben Efsaneyimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16001682865274251483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-34478215519333114342014-02-12T20:43:36.707-08:002014-02-12T20:43:36.707-08:00Good points and constructive thoughts/criticisms.
...Good points and constructive thoughts/criticisms.<br /><br />Yes, it is a two-way street. There are things each side can do before pointing fingers to the other side. Asian people and Black people are both misinformed, indoctrinated with white poison and look at each other through a white lens, which leads to non-constructive interactions. Most of the confusion and conflict between the two groups is a reaction to white supremacy. Blacks and Asians are not the source of each others problems. In the 50s and 60s they were less confused about who the real enemy is since racism was more overt. White people are more refined in the way they practice racism now. The confusion is more sophisticated.<br /><br />White people have always frowned on and taken actions to thwart Afro-Asian solidarity worldwide. An example that comes to mind is the Bandung Conference (Afro-Asian Conference) in Bandung, Indonesia in 1955 that led to the Non-Aligned Movement in 1961.Rashnunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-41680704797495447362014-01-19T22:44:09.573-08:002014-01-19T22:44:09.573-08:00Yun
I think that we are basically in agreement. A...Yun<br /><br />I think that we are basically in agreement. Any solidarity has to be based on equality, mutual respect, and reason. It is not reasonable - as I felt Park suggested - to believe that Asians are the sole cause of any lack of solidarity, tension and prejudice between the two groups is a two-way street.<br /><br />Plus I don't really see it as a joke for Asians to talk about black anti-Asian racism - that again implies that once an economic threshold has been passed, then racism should be tolerated. The problem is that there are prosperous minorities of every colour - why is it only Asians who seem required to suck up their racial experiences because of their economic successes? Ben Efsaneyimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16001682865274251483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-67804880632874561912014-01-19T22:36:02.695-08:002014-01-19T22:36:02.695-08:00Apollyon
Thanks! Apollyon<br /><br />Thanks! Ben Efsaneyimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16001682865274251483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-72358888221732478752014-01-19T15:59:45.575-08:002014-01-19T15:59:45.575-08:00"The reasoning is that Asians are successful ..."The reasoning is that Asians are successful (really?) so talking about anti-Asian racism is unnecessary. But this is just plain silly"<br /><br />Well, not really. We need to emphasize with their problems. To me, an Asian complaining to a Black is similar to (but not exactly) the joke of first world problems.<br /><br />Yes, Asians have a right to complain. At the same time, you want to punch them in the face too. I realize how ridiculous that sounds coming from me.<br /><br />As for solutions, we must answer "what's in it for me?". If the only thing that happens is nebulous dialog then this shit will go nowhere.<br /><br />Unless the people involved GIVE tangible benefits to others then it's just lip service. GIVING is the missing piece. That can build relationships through reciprocation, which leads to trust, which builds communities.<br /><br />The first step towards this is education so that everyone knows what the reality (whites are the shafting us all, but each minority group has a share in some of the blame also) instead of the post-racial bullshit.Yun Xunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-91522976973346002014-01-19T15:16:15.917-08:002014-01-19T15:16:15.917-08:00Another excellent post! I don't as yet have an...Another excellent post! I don't as yet have anything more to say, but as always your thoughts and analyses are insightful and intelligent. Thanks as always for your contributions.Apollyonnoreply@blogger.com