tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post6317055428282137067..comments2023-07-01T00:33:55.165-07:00Comments on Ben Efsaneyim: Is Donald Trump An Asian-American Progressive?Ben Efsaneyimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16001682865274251483noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-2121648221977041392016-04-20T11:33:43.432-07:002016-04-20T11:33:43.432-07:00@Euro herbivore,
Perhaps a even more "intere...@Euro herbivore,<br /><br />Perhaps a even more "interesting" discussion would be the participation of South Korea (ROK) in the Vietnam War and the atrocities it committed.<br /><br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Korea_in_the_Vietnam_War<br /><br /><br />There's no such thing as "Asian American" except as a social construct invented in the political 1960s for numbers...<br /><br />And there has to be a statute of limitations on historical atrocities, or else everybody would be "guilty" despite not having even been born nor participated in those historical wrongs.crazy MMerhttp://www.cia.govnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-22361067754817407902016-04-16T10:58:21.417-07:002016-04-16T10:58:21.417-07:00Is there any significant effort by Asian-Americans...Is there any significant effort by Asian-Americans to support the people of Asia or their countries? There should be.<br /><br />As for the the Vietnam (+Laos+Cambodia) war:<br /><br />1. The world needs to be told about the historical facts, in English. In the US, media, government and the public often tells only a biased version of history, often no more than a concoction of self-serving lies! Being European, I know this well. People should have a chance to know about the truth.<br /><br />For example: I want to know how many South East Asian people were really killed, what percentage of its population. The numbers we are told cannot be trusted blindly. Asian-Americans should do the research themselves or fund it.<br /><br />2. Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia suffer till this day from the long-term consequences of this war. There is bombs and ammunition buried which didn't explode during the war but explodes today and kills people. What can be done about it? Are these countries capable of dealing with it or do they need help? Can the USA be brought to pay for it?<br /><br />The USA will never be an Asian country. By assimilating into America, you are throwing away your cultural heritage and ending your Asian bloodline. By being patriotic and worrying about "American competitiveness" or such things you are working against Asia and for White/Western supremacy. My own stake in this matter is that I want the Asian nations and races and civilizations to keep on living.Euro herbivorenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-51099684387010317932016-04-15T08:41:43.303-07:002016-04-15T08:41:43.303-07:00All too often I have heard Americans deflecting re...<i>All too often I have heard Americans deflecting responsibility from their nation's actions. As if they were none of their concern. They talk a lot about justice and make bleeding heart-arguments for underprivileged and disadvantaged - but when it comes to Non-American victims of their nation, all of a sudden their hearts turn to stone. Americans, in their attitude towards Non-Americans, have no moral conscience at all.</i><br /><br />Very true. In fact, Stokely Carmichael once stated that the "United States has no conscience."<br /><br />He was referring to the USA's treatment of Blacks, but his description is even more true in terms of the horrors that America inflicts on non-Americans. <br /><br />See America's many wars of aggression around the world as but one example.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-49005697584398534352016-03-06T12:32:25.097-08:002016-03-06T12:32:25.097-08:00"Also, did you used to post under the name &q..."Also, did you used to post under the name "Rashnu"?"<br /><br />No, that wasn't me.<br /><br />Of course I wanted to reply earlier but I just couldn't. When I receive answers like yours from Americans, it makes me so hopeless that I often can not find the strength to reply at all.<br /><br />No, I do not agree with you. Of course it is possible to live in America without being complicit in her crimes, but only if one acts accordingly. When you speak of America by using "we", referring to actions, then you imply that you want to be part of a collectively acting nation. Therefore, you are willfully complicit in America's acts and responsible for her past. Not personally, but as part of the collective. Anything else is opportunistic picking and choosing.<br /><br />All too often I have heard Americans deflecting responsibility from their nation's actions. As if they were none of their concern. They talk a lot about justice and make bleeding heart-arguments for underprivileged and disadvantaged - but when it comes to Non-American victims of their nation, all of a sudden their hearts turn to stone. Americans, in their attitude towards Non-Americans, have no moral conscience at all.<br /><br />And I think it is funny, in a bitter way, when ethnically or racially distinct minorities in America who complain about racism are themselves the biggest racists towards Non-Americans.Euro herbivorenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-77808038911966956352016-03-03T23:27:42.515-08:002016-03-03T23:27:42.515-08:00Euro Herbivore
I think that you have picked up ve...Euro Herbivore<br /><br />I think that you have picked up very clearly on the problem with these Asian progressive articles - particularly Iyer's.<br /><br />Ther terms Iyer uses are vague and hard to examine - what exactly does he mean by "America's ugly past"? What does he mean specifically by the "idea of America"?<br /><br />Incoming immigrants probably would not have the founding father's notions of America in mind when they decide to migrate - perhaps they would have the idea that America is an economic opportunity, perhaps they believe that America offers them more societal freedom to pursue their own agendas. Who knows? <br /><br />But the idea that settling here carries with it an implicit acceptance of America's past is extremely presumptuous and there is certainly no reason to assert complicity. What exactly does that mean anyway - is Iyer suggesting that people have sat down and drawn charts weighing the pro and cons outlining the past and present actions of America before they decide to take the oath of citizenship?<br /><br />But, yes, everyone makes piece with America's past because few of us live there - we can certainly harken back to past injustices and seek to remedy the ways that they persist in maintaining present-day injustices, but it is nonsense to claim that this is the same as being complicit with these injustices. Making peace with America's unjust past does not mean - as Iyer suggests - assuming a role in its perpetuation. <br /><br />Also, did you used to post under the name "Rashnu"?Ben Efsaneyimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16001682865274251483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-33598447316881418502016-03-03T11:40:19.904-08:002016-03-03T11:40:19.904-08:00Designing an app that lessens race and gendered ba...Designing an app that lessens race and gendered based bias when matching talent search with individual candidates. Now this black woman is doing something positive that EVERYONE can support.http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2016/03/03/black-woman-engineer-launches-blind-job-match-app-to-take-bias-out-of-tech-hiring/2/#5904f73b75ab<br />mmjamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-9684428190514659902016-03-02T05:26:15.300-08:002016-03-02T05:26:15.300-08:00"It should be mentioned that everyone has to ..."It should be mentioned that everyone has to make peace with America's ugly past - if they did not, they would leave or withdraw from the game - "<br /><br />Did you make peace with America's past? If yes, how?<br /><br />What do you feel about the bombing of South East Asia, for example? Did you make peace with it? Even today people in these countries die from non-exploded bombs. Hundreds of thousands suffer from permanent physical pain because of exposure to Agent Orange.<br /><br />"the problem with Iyer's claim is that he conflates America's past with the "idea of America", and concludes, nonsensically, that to embrace one is to accept the other."<br /><br />Why is that nonsensical? Do you mean to argue that the ugly parts of America's past were not founded in the idea of America but happened only when and because America, somehow, diverged from this very idea? When, do you think, did this happen and why?<br /><br />But what is this true idea of America then, if it isn't what the founding fathers had in mind when they founded this state? And these founding fathers knew about slavery, they owned slaves themselves, and they knew about the Native Americans who owned the North American continent back then and they knew that their idea of America could only be turned into a reality if the country would be taken away from the Native Americans.<br /><br />So - is, what the founding fathers had in mind, not the true idea of America? If not, then what is it? And who knows about it? How can you claim some idea to be the true idea of America, if you are the only one having it?Euro herbivorenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-12232110306485043682016-02-28T23:55:33.417-08:002016-02-28T23:55:33.417-08:00mmjames
That kind of common sense attitude is com...mmjames<br /><br />That kind of common sense attitude is complicity with white supremacy! <br /><br />I think you hit the nail on the head - the hiring process in tech is probably not racist, but the quality of schooling for some minorities gives them a disadvantage. <br /><br />Forcing employers to hire according to racial demographics won't change this - it will make american tech less competitive. The solution is to fix the schools.Ben Efsaneyimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16001682865274251483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-36113298148875942822016-02-28T23:44:44.495-08:002016-02-28T23:44:44.495-08:00"I wonder if Ang would include ALL non-indige...<i>"I wonder if Ang would include ALL non-indigenous people in the USA as settlers in America's theft and occupation of Native lands?.....This includes Black people in the USA as well.</i><br /><br />That kind of logical nuance does not exist in some Asian progressive brains I'm afraid.Ben Efsaneyimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16001682865274251483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-28310602762648890782016-02-27T21:14:13.798-08:002016-02-27T21:14:13.798-08:00I see a lot of progressives us the "You'r...I see a lot of progressives us the "You're either with us or against us" rhetoric when accusing Asians of being anti-Black or wanting to be White. Do these people remember Bush? Everyone laughed at his ass back when he said this but I guess I missed the memo that Bush was actually right or something. Another thing is applying the trickle down effect (ala Reaganomics) to fighting for Black causes over Asian ones even in race based affirmative action. I'm just not seeing it when we barely have any Asian American actors, musicians, 0 supreme court justices, 1 NBA player after 50+ years, etc. Sometimes we just have unique experiences and problems that aren't solved when they're solved in other groups. Militant shaming also isn't how you convince people to work together.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-40883010364925273812016-02-26T20:38:41.358-08:002016-02-26T20:38:41.358-08:00I can't believe these "progressive" ...I can't believe these "progressive" asians are going after the tech industry. In my undergrad engineering class, there were approx 10% women and 0% blacks (I live in Canada). Entrance into my university is based partially on high school marks but mostly on proprietary math/physics/chemistry tests with very little subjectivity (as it should be). The tech industry is mired in cut-throat global competition and in many cases it is winner take all. Ultimately the company with the best product wins big and they generally are the ones with the best talent. Artificially balancing gender composition and race to reflect the local population is a guaranteed recipe that one or more Asian or European competitor end up eating your lunch.mmjamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-20695344980549895202016-02-24T01:24:59.874-08:002016-02-24T01:24:59.874-08:00DepressingDepressingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com