tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post6963232374493190537..comments2023-07-01T00:33:55.165-07:00Comments on Ben Efsaneyim: Angry Asiance Men and Dumb Asiance Women.Ben Efsaneyimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16001682865274251483noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-71340072615723105642011-09-17T14:18:12.750-07:002011-09-17T14:18:12.750-07:00Hello Douglas
Welcome to my blog and thank you fo...Hello Douglas<br /><br />Welcome to my blog and thank you for your comment. That is a very touching essay, and I applaud your devotion and marital longevity. My only pause is that you would choose an asinine platform like Asiance to display such good writing! <br /><br />On a more serious note, as you will know, the era in which you describe meeting your wife was extremely volatile for inter-racial relationships, and I'm glad to hear that inter-racial pairings from that period were able to succeed. I think that an estimated 600-1000 African men were lynched between 1920 and 1960, some of whom were killed because they had been involved in illegal relationships with white women. <br /><br />There is an old book that I always recommend to people who might have an interest in Asian-Americans, and that is "America Is In The Heart" by Carlos Bulosan written in 1946 (maybe you already know it). But the book is interesting because it describes, almost in passing, the experiences of the mixed children of Filipino men and Caucasian women in America of the 1920's and 1930's. Because these pairings were feared by white mainstream America, they were often attacked or harassed in the streets and, unbelievably, some of these Filipino men were lynched because of it. <br /><br />Consequently, these white women were unable to take their part Asian kids to school, the store, or even just to the park, because they, and their kids, might have been killed. <br /><br />I think that much of this history is uncomfortable for 21st century sensibilities and consequently it is not remembered. So, what we are left with, particularly with regards to the historical gender peculiarities of Asian-Americans, is fundamentally, the white man's story. I think that it has and does get told from the white man's perspective most of the time - hence the propagation of the Angry Asian Man Myth.Ben Efsaneyimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16001682865274251483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-38885288223921964402011-09-17T12:29:57.121-07:002011-09-17T12:29:57.121-07:00I invite you to read "Why Doug Loves Ting&quo...I invite you to read "Why Doug Loves Ting" in http://asiancemagazine.com or better yet, my book, TING AND I: A MEMOIR OF LOVE, COURAGE, AND DEVOTION, for this white man's side of the story.Douglas Winslow Cooperhttp://www.tingandi.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-81581444415032979112011-08-08T21:34:01.995-07:002011-08-08T21:34:01.995-07:00Didn't mean for the post to be Anonymous - you...Didn't mean for the post to be Anonymous - you know how blogger gets? I thought it didn't go through, either. lol. Glad it did! Stupid captcha's and the drop down menu's.RL.Treadwayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09630142688742804319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-55275483277170502932011-08-07T12:00:50.860-07:002011-08-07T12:00:50.860-07:00Hi Masir
Sorry for the loooonnng delay in respond...Hi Masir<br /><br />Sorry for the loooonnng delay in responding to your comment - I've been travelling alot this past month! Thanks for stopping by.<br /><br />You have an awesome attitude - that's exactly what Asian men need to project if we want our lot in life to change. <br /><br />Hi anonymous<br /><br />Welcome to the blog and I'm glad you like us! We like you too!Ben Efsaneyimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16001682865274251483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-13529972535922780902011-08-04T22:30:38.833-07:002011-08-04T22:30:38.833-07:00Came across your site inadvertently, but upon read...Came across your site inadvertently, but upon reading this post, thought I would throw in 2 cents. I'm a female - half white, half latino with an attraction towards Asian men. Maybe it started with all of those cheesy Hong Kong movies with hot Chinese men when I was a kid, I don't know that's not the point. Point is, if what you say is true about "stepping up your game" - then I would agree. I see plenty of hot Asian guys and I DO assume they aren't interested because 9 times out of 10 - they DON'T SAY ANYTHING. Not even a shy smile. So yea, Asian guys? Get in the groove because you're hot! 'nuff said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-7211492348767002462011-06-18T09:29:12.210-07:002011-06-18T09:29:12.210-07:00I don't let Asian women like this phase me any...I don't let Asian women like this phase me anymore. Its funny when I look back, but I used to get really emotional about it. Then one day, I apologized to the world, admitted that I was being bitter and *POOF* my feelings of angst vanished. Now, that being said I still stand with my Asian-American brothers but in a different manner. I believe that AA males need to improve their Game plain and simple. If you want the best, you have to challenge yourself to be better. You can't deny Greats such as Park Ji Sung and Manny Pacquanio or Bruce Lee no matter what the media says. Why?<br /><br />Because actions speak louder than words. Practice, practice, practice. And when you have enough of those who outperform, nobody can deny the reality that a certain individual or group is good at something. <br /><br />So my take on it is, 1) point out the ignorance. Done. 2) Now, figure out the next steps. It's all about making progress. Done enough of #1. Let's all focus on #2.<br /><br />And btw, in CA I see a ton of Asian males dating White females or Hot Asian females. (Yes, I have one of them that all men stare at because she's cute and stacked). Let's all take some personal responsibility and help improve the Game for all of us.MaSirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17112263977105108306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-77723635420309042612011-05-29T21:12:17.798-07:002011-05-29T21:12:17.798-07:00Of course the Asian Boogey Man Approach (tm) would...Of course the Asian Boogey Man Approach (tm) would be very politically incorrect and chastised. There are more subversive ways of attacking the problem.Dalihttp://dzheng.freeshell.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-63042818470413924692011-05-29T14:05:59.472-07:002011-05-29T14:05:59.472-07:00Dali
I actually think that the IR disparity is in...Dali<br /><br />I actually think that the IR disparity is indicative of many things - some (or even most) of which we should be openly speaking about since it reflects some negative things in American society, I don't deny that.<br /><br />But how well do we voice or conceptualize these issues? I think that the kind of Asian Boogey Man approach that I alluded to in the post is a poor response to the very real issues suggested by the disparity. <br /><br />I'll expand my thoughts on this şn a future post.Ben Efsaneyimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16001682865274251483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-51651857273200570382011-05-28T12:49:02.531-07:002011-05-28T12:49:02.531-07:00When a white female dates a black male, the white ...When a white female dates a black male, the white man's reaction, "she's dating a black man," is code for "she's ostracized from our circle and dead to us."<br /><br />Could it be that because Asian men are repressed from saying what they really want to say about the issue, it perpetuates the high rate interracial dating among Asian females? <br /><br />Do white men look downward among white females who date black men? Absolutely, I've seen this sort of ostracization happen. When an Asian female dates a white male, Asian men are expected to shut up about it and keep quiet, and silence is defeat. <br /><br />Is it a bad thing to be labelled as angry? When it's justified anger at a real demographic problem, I think <b>Asian men should be angry</b>, but they are afraid to speak out against it, and those who do are shunned and torn down.Dalihttp://dzheng.freeshell.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-7990897857323514352011-05-11T21:12:11.548-07:002011-05-11T21:12:11.548-07:00James...
Hahaha! There's that too!James...<br /><br />Hahaha! There's that too!Ben Efsaneyimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16001682865274251483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-36163287815504913762011-05-10T16:51:47.883-07:002011-05-10T16:51:47.883-07:00@James: speaking for the crazed angry Asian Booge...@James: speaking for the crazed angry Asian Boogey Men of America (yes we do have organizational meetings), I have to say that I spend every waking moment obsess over the next "Auntie Tan" novel, or those or her successors like Lisa See and sit in the back of the room with sunglasses and a baseball cap at their readings.<br /><br /><br />@James: it's beyond cliche. anybody with the slightest sense of history would have encountered colonial history. however, all you see in the movies are footbinding stories: SNOW FLOWER AND THE SECRET FAN! lolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-1600809689795447882011-05-10T11:30:12.453-07:002011-05-10T11:30:12.453-07:00If some Asian women are projecting the angry Asian...If some Asian women are projecting the angry Asian man stereotype on Asian men, then I think it is partly due to feeling guilty about "selling out."<br /><br />Now that doesn't mean every AF w/ a WM is self-hating sellout, but I'm sure it's annoying to have that nagging feeling that you're a walking cliche.Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13649094298355514533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-55098047724227957492011-05-10T02:07:31.401-07:002011-05-10T02:07:31.401-07:00Crazed....
I spoke too soon!!
James...
I stand...Crazed....<br /><br />I spoke too soon!!<br /><br />James...<br /> <br />I stand corrected! But I still think that some Asian women would feel lost without the angry asian boogey man!Ben Efsaneyimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16001682865274251483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-76944578952152942772011-05-09T18:47:23.440-07:002011-05-09T18:47:23.440-07:00Are there angry asian men who get bent out of shap...Are there <a href="http://alpha-asian.blogspot.com/2008/11/angry-asian-man-syndrome.html" rel="nofollow">angry asian men</a> who get bent out of shape when they see AF/WM?<br /><br />Yeah, I've met quite a few in person. I don't count the Internet, because the Net just gives you a very distorted version of the world. You'd think there were <a href="http://forums.yellowworld.org/showthread.php?t=38107" rel="nofollow">racist pedophiles</a> everywhere.<br /><br />Anyway, I can remember 3 guys who fit the angry asian man descrip. One guy had a gorgeous girlfriend who reminded me of an even prettier version of Joan Chen in her prime. And yet this dude was still bitching about all the AF/WM pairings he was seeing.<br /><br />Another guy would chew out Asian women in public. He knew Japanese (since his girlfriend was Japanese), so whenever he saw a Japanese girl with a white guy, he'd chew them out in Japanese.<br /><br />But I get what you're saying, Ben. People want to apply this angry Asian man stereotype to ALL Asian men. In reality, I think most Asian men don't give a shit unless the girl's hot or if the girl starts proclaiming in public she doesn't date Asian men.Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13649094298355514533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8566317761793185393.post-4497730613062250492011-05-09T18:13:47.772-07:002011-05-09T18:13:47.772-07:00we'll never relent in our pursuit of tagging e...we'll never relent in our pursuit of tagging every last one of them sellouts!<br /><br />in fact, we won't go to work, eat or sleep and constantly obsess over AF getting stuffed into research lab walls.<br /><br />not even when there are many beautiful women of other races who would love to give us the time of day and have great conversations will we stop to stalk all AF dating whiteys to prevent them from being stuffed into kitty litter.<br /><br />that's genuine concern and love from the crazed Boogey Asian man.<br /><br />signed,<br />crazedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com